Two Or Three To A Tent? What Do You Think?

Two or three to a tent?

This has been a highly debated topic for a long time, be it on social media or on our feedback forms.

So we thought we’ll open this to all of you.

With the response to a survey we conducted last week, the results of which are given below, we are seriously considering offering two to a tent. But we aren’t entirely convinced and we’d like you to share your thoughts on it.

So far, here’s our justification for having three in a tent:

1. The current size and shape of our tents are perfect for all weather conditions. They are dome tents specifically designed keeping the wind, rain, snow and sun in mind. Any smaller, they’ll get too airless, any bigger, they’ll not withstand the weather. We experimented with slightly bigger tents and we lost three of them as they flew away in heavy winds.

2. It reduces the resources we use. For a batch of 20, we currently need around 7 tents (this is discounting the staff members that come along). If there are two to a tent, that means 10 tents for each batch. We’ll also need two back up tents in case of any damage. This means we need at least another mule to every batch to carry the extra tents. Consequently, we are leaving behind a fairly larger carbon footprint – which is against everything we stand for.

3. Aesthetically, it’s never nice to see too many tents at a campsite. Lesser people in a tent means more tents, and it’s not nice to see too many tents in the middle of the wilderness of the Himalayas.

4. Too much luxury goes against the spirit of trekking. From what trekkers tell me, they want our current expedition tents to be two-man tents. But tents are not meant to be rooms – they are mere roofs over our heads. In the larger scheme of things, trekking is supposed to be about minimalist living. We don’t like the idea of ‘glamping.’ (glam camping).

5. It’s warm with three people. When the temperatures outside are dipping to sub zero, it’s always better to huddle up. If there’s empty space in the tent, its colder.

What have trekkers said?

To give you some numbers, I received 553 responses over email within two hours! People are still responding and now I have over 800 opinions regarding this in my inbox.

I have put together some numbers from the emails.

Out of the 812 responses so far

442 (54%) trekkers are comfortable with three in a tent.

Their justification is on the lines of these comments.

I agree with all the points you have mentioned plus staying together there is a bonding and support . When someone is not keeping well and also it’s an independent self help team.
Vishwas Patil


I totally agree with you, unfortunately, I have experienced it myself in chopta. As the 2 of the group members canceled at end moment I stayed in the tend with only one more and during the night when the temperature dipped it was much colder in our tent than those who had three.
Harshit Jain


I am a behaviour facilitator by interest and an HR professional by education and experience. Trekking and camping out together as an activity brings you closer to the people with you and as you share u r experiences and your space( in a tent) with them u build connections. This is another outcome of a trek and of having to stay with others, albeit cramped in a tent if at all.

“Wanting to have my own space” kind of thinking goes against the purpose for which one has undertaken the trek. In the mountains as u achieve heights u end up defeating ur notions and fears and step out of u r comfort zones, camping also is akin to the same. “can i be a bit more accommodative to the 2 others in my tent?” is fundamental to understanding oneself and being able to overcome our own “self” and preferences.

In conclusion, am sure you would have guessed, i am all for 3 in a tent.
Gautam Nabar


Completely agree with the points enumerated in the mail. I have joined Indiahikes for the trek to Roopkund. During my trek, I also felt that the campsites are crowded. Increasing the number of tents will further reduce the available area.

I am a fairly huge person (98kg, 5 ft 10 inches) and so was one of my tent mate (over 6 ft 1 inch). The third guy in our tent was of medium size. And I should say, not once did we felt that it is congested inside the tent.

Also, we are not going for trekking to enjoy a luxurious travel. I believe that the idea of trekking itself is to sacrifice the comforts of our home, cooperate and sacrifice for your team mates, gain the courage to face all the difficulties one will meet and know more about oneself by pushing the limits.
Jithin M

175 (21%) trekkers prefer two in a tent.

This is their line of thought:

On the night of my fist campsite, two hours in and I woke up with a claustrophobic attack and heavy suffocation. After that episode, first two campsites of my Hampta pass trek, I slept in the dining tents.

Since a few had to decend in the following days, I slept alone in a tent on the third, later on the last two day another person joined me in the extra tent. Considering this episode, where I had experience of sleeping in different tents in different combinations, here are my views.

1. I found two people in a tent to be less suffocating- relatively.

2. I still find tents like the dining ones to be better (high roofs). I know they can’t hold well in colder camps.

I had a claustrophobic attack and hence thought it’s worth sharing. Hope this is a useful feedback.
Pruthvi Reddy


The quality of tents is undoubtedly good. But if you look into it carefully , it’s not just three people huddled up in there. It is their baggage, shoes, backpacks , offload luggage and of course sleeping bags also occupying space. If it’s raining outside , you can not keep any of these things outside the tent. With all this inside the tent , it is difficult for three to move, change clothes, fold sleeping bags in a tent. In this scenario I don’t take two in a tent , a luxury, but it’ll in fact improve efficiency.
– Sangeeta Mahajan


I strongly vote for 2 persons in a tent. My reasons are as follows:

1. For a person of above-average height (5 feet 9 or above) its impossible to stretch the feet in a linear manner in the current size of tents that are being used and therefore such persons may prefer to stretch diagonally. I have experienced this myself. That is impossible with three in a tent.

2. Often we do not quite go to a trek in a ‘group’ of our own. In fact, quite a few trekkers had come to our Roopkund Trek with Indiahikes as solo trekkers. Therefore, not all have familiar persons or acquaintances in a group. Therefore, sharing a tent (which is definitely a personal space at the end of the day) with a complete stranger is a tad difficult, but I understand that’s what the spirit of trekking is all about! However, having three persons may be a bit too much to expect from the largely urbane trekkers. Although I may add here, both my tent mates were wonderful persons and we had tentloads of fun (none of us knew each other prior to the trek)!!

3. It is absolutely impossible for a person of my height (5 feet 11) to turn/ change the posture with 3 in a tent.
Kinjal Ghose

 

59 (7%) trekkers say that we should have an additional fee for two in a tent.

Here’s what they have to say:

Yes, agreed, 3 in a tent is good for all the reasons mentioned. However, I think people should get the option to be 2 for a tent, for a fee, especially if they are a couple.
– Lea Maguero


I have done the Rupin and Hampta Pass treks and I for one, have never had a sound night’s sleep when I had slept three in a tent. I kept twisting and turning those nights while my tent mates fell asleep. And once my tent mates used to fall asleep and start snoring, that made it even more difficult for me to get to sleep. I would wake several times at night as not being able to fall asleep makes me hit the rest room more frequently.

I understand that trekking is about minimalist living and we should keep in mind that we will be dealing with these issues while signing up for it. For that reason, I have never complained about this as I’ve always seen this as an individual specific problem (the individual being me). But it seems like the issue is just not specific to me and plenty of trekkers face the same issue.

All in all, I think it would be great to have this option at an additional fee. I would never pay to unload by backpack because I’m perfectly capable to carrying it on my own, but I would pay to have only one other person in my tent if I could as that is something that would make my life easier on me. But to tell you the truth, even if I don’t have that option, I would still put up with it and go out for treks with Indiahikes.
Debdeep Chattopadhyay


Definitely 2 per tent. Especially if u r a couple. Also for older trekkers wher we need a bit more comfort and maybe space. Our tired bones cant remain in one position for the full nite. I think the additional fee is an inbetween fair option. I resolved this by carrying my own tent
Tejas Parekh


I felt the tent for 3 was bit too stuffy..

1. Many a times when we had to get ready in the morning there just wasn’t space for more than one person to pack things at a time.

2. Secondly on a personal note, one of the guys i shared the room with snored a lot. With the current tent size, he was snoring right next to my ear and it was really bothering me..

3. In two of the campsites, the land below was pretty uneven and almost caved in a bit. This meant both the guys on my side were sliding towards the middle and cramping me..wasn’t a good experience there..

Of course i enjoyed this as a trekking experience.. But if there was a way i could pay more and get a 2 person sent, i would definitely go for it.
Vinay


Many have pointed that the going can get tough in bad weather.

Rains. I hate rains, probably because my part of Delhi gets submerged in water in that season. But rains in mountains are a norm and should always be expected. When we reach a camp site and we have 3 people in a tent, we are left with:

1. No space for bags inside the tent since there is hardly space to fit 3 people with back straight.

2. Bags are anyways wet by then and keeping them inside would make the place more worse.

3. No space to dry out clothes for later.

Comfort. I am saying it is comfortable with 2 in a tent and not a luxury. Maybe it’s just a perspective difference. For city dwellers like us (and most of your target audience) trek is quite different from our usual lives already. Expecting some space to lie down after walking a whole day should be considered a necessity instead of luxury. 🙂
Ayush Goel


IMHO, having 3 in a test is nice because of the following :
1. It goes with the spirit of minimalism as a way of life. High altitude treks a great way to learn about how to declutter life.

2. It helps improve camaraderie among trekkers.

3. It’s resource-efficient.

However, having 3 in a tent becomes difficult when it is raining outside and water starts seeping into the tent. The tent is supposed to keep not just 3 trekkers but their bags also. We faced this issue during our trek to Hampta Pass last year. It was raining all night and water started coming into the tent because it was bulging from all sides. That made sleeping in the tents very uncomfortable. We had to trek with tired bodies for want of sleep. In such situations, having 2 in a tent becomes a necessity and not luxury.
Abhishek Somani

 

Now the debate is open to you. What do you think we should do?

We would ideally like to take a collective opinion before taking a final call because at the end of the day, as a trekker, it is going to affect you.

So drop in your comments below and let us know!

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Swathi Chatrapathy is a journalist from Bangalore. She heads the content team at Indiahikes and runs a video show called Trek With Swathi. Writing, reading and trekking are up there on her list of favourite things!

177 thoughts on “Two Or Three To A Tent? What Do You Think?

  1. Would really prefer TWO people inside a tent. 3 feels too claustrophbic. Also there is hardly any space left. There should be enough room for people to be comfartable.

  2. Completely agree with 3 per tent sharing. For one of the nights during a winter trek, bunch of us even squeezed in 4 people in a tent as it was super cold, and it helped us get a peaceful sleep.
    The biggest logic behind this is the warmth it provides-especially during winter treks. While the ecological argument is also spot on, from a trekker’s perspective, comfortable sleep is a big concern and sharing between 3 people makes that easier.

    1. two, three is way too small unless the people are small. We also have to find room for our gear so there is no way you can spend a comfortable night with 3 in a tent. im not talking about luxury, im talking about having at least few inches between you, the tent wall and the person next to you. And a good nights sleep is important when your trekking

  3. We always find the space in tent, with 3 occupants, not enough for our rucksacks & other loose things that we drop when we are inside tent. Except this space limitation, there is no other issue.

  4. While the points made in favour of 3 to a tent make complete sense, I reckon a few factors do need closer examination (might’ve been covered already so bear with me)
    1) Did rupin pass last year where we had crazy rains on 3 days. The boundaries of the tent were quite wet by about 10PM which meant it got quite cramped while avoiding these spaces.
    2) There were 3 of us, all of us being 6 ft tall or thereabouts. This meant with the rucksacks, it was quite a tight fit.
    3) The mornings were a bit of a challenge as all 3 of us had to roll up sleeping bags, change for the day, and pack our bags at around the same time.

    In conclusion, while the argument in favour of 3 to a tent is compelling, I think offering the option of 2 to a tent for an additional fee makes sense as it gives people the option.

  5. Honestly the problem isn’t three people in the tent. It is the three people, plus their backpacks(which when combined amounts to an extra person). In my Bramhatal trek we had a very small batch of 12 people, so we requested the staff if we could use more tents and stay comfortably, to this they said that they are for emergency situations. We were three tall guys in my tent with our backpacks it was quite a struggle until I told my tent mates that there are three tents empty. I am gonna go put my bag in one of them so that i get the nights sleep. And in the end i took all the three bags to the extra tent and could sleep. So my request would be a small shelter tent(something like a miniature form of the dining tent) where we can keep our backpacks(atleast the ones who wish to).

  6. I’ve been quite comfortable with 3 people in a tent. However couples who come together on a treks seeking to strengthen their bond, might find sharing their tent with a third person a little uncomfortable and its equally uncomfortable for the third person too. I have noticed that the trend of couples taking such adventure trips together is increasing, hence it’ll be wise that you make some provisions, albeit at a cost for them. After all trekking has a lot of emotions attached to it, and it would be a nice to extend the emotional warmth to couples who are seeking to spend some quality time together. I would however suggest you go for advance booking for a couples tent, to help you plan for the extra tents needed and please charge for the service, so that you can use the extra resources to keep the trek clean. Also assign some trek cleansing responsibility to such couples, comfort comes at a cost..

  7. 2 in a tent, please

    This has nothing to do with luxury. The fact that you are in the wilderness , devoid of your fancy gadgets and other frills back home, is a testimony to your being comfortable without luxury.
    This is more about space , literally and figuratively. Space to move about and do things comfortably, without inconveniencing a tent mate, and to having some alone time with a book if need be. After all, I’m away from the madness so I can be with and discover more of my self. I don’t have to mingle or play silly games. It’s a choice.

    If given, I ll definitely take 2 in a tent. Even if it cost me extra.

  8. It must be very strictly followed.
    Only 2 people in a tent.
    The problem faced are real worst.
    And person like me would really prefer to quite the trek rather then sleeping more then 2 in a tent.
    Charge me extra but only 2 people in a tent.

    I am 6 feet tall with a big build.
    1. Too congested to while sleep. You can’t even move 1 inch.
    2. Extremely harsh situation when it rains.
    3. Where to keep lagguage.
    4. Changing cloth is a major issue.
    5. And as more people increases oxygen reduces and carbon dioxide increases and at higher altitude, it make overnight recovery of body difficult.
    6. I am claustrophobic and 3 people makes me really breathless. (I faced this problem at few trek even when we used to just seat during free time.)

    Please take more charge, but it must be made mandatory only 2 people in a tent.

  9. I guess the argument is simple – if you are OK with three in a tent, you should be more than OK with 2 in a tent unless you are really worried about cost. If you are not OK with 3 in a tent, there is just no option but to crib and tag along. So instead of cribbing team mates, it is much nicer to have happy, healthy and enthusiastic and comfortable mates.

    Indiahikes fees is less than 20% of the trip cost and hence even they add few XXX still it will not hurt the budget in big way.

  10. Yes, 2 in a tent for only the peak rainy season. Where the campsite is relatively open and prone to waterlogging. For example, bedni bugyal and pathar nachauni on the Roopkund trek are very prone to heavy rain. It becomes difficult for the tent to accommodate 3 people with their bags during the rainy season when clothes get wet and water seeps through the tent. Eventually it leads to improper sleep. If Indiahikes is taking safety as a priority anyways, this should also be accounted for.

    I totally agree 3 in a tent is a plus in the winter months due to the extra warmth it can create in a cold campsite.

    For logistics purposes, 3-4 extra portable tents can be kept at certain campsites for the rainy season 3-4 months. It can then be used if required.

  11. I would opt for 3 people in a tent for the following reasons;
    1. “Sharing is caring” is one of the first things i have learnt while trekking. You always form better bonds when you stay together and also its easier to get along with each other.
    2. If you want to go out in the night, its always good and safe to have a group of three.
    3. Also, the efforts of carrying so much of extra tents just for the sake of luxury seems like a waste of resources.

  12. I think you should provide the option for two for a fee!
    By providing a choice, this becomes a win win for everybody.
    If you give no choice and everyone has to comply with 3 to 1, then for 22% (approx 4-5 persons in a trek) leave with a sub par experience. Why would you want that?

  13. I think 3 per tent is absolutely fine and you have quoted very valid reasons. Have done about 6 high Altitude himalayan trek including Pin Parvati, my observation is that 3 per tent could be a problem in “higher” altitudes, like > 14000 ft. You may want to explore to consider 2 per tent in such “very high” altitude camps.

  14. I always trek with my wife. Two of us will prefer a separate tent, even if the cost is higher.

    Some of your competitors already offer this, and it has been a good experience with them.

  15. I found bonding as a reason to sleep three in a tent rather amusing as there is no space down below the mountains to ensure bonding. However, i will rather stick to my opinion. In my last Roopkund trip we were three in a tent and was rather good for the first two nights. post that we felt breathless and felt suffocation as we climbed higher. Also three in a tent is ideal for three lightly built bodies and not for someone among the three who is bulky. Hence, we might do well to ask the preference while making a booking.

    Saying this, suggest a trek where I can take my 6 year old girl in december 🙂 She has already done Har ki dun

  16. I would prefer 2 per tent as after a long trek if you dont get comfortable sleep as it cramped . you may end up getting exhaust more the next day and it can be a potential problem for continuing the trek.
    Also i feel the guy in the middle is at disadvantage as he cant move much and may end up disturbing others .

  17. Definitely 2 to a tent for me, and I’m speaking from experiencing both the sides on the same trek!

    We were 3 in the tent for the first couple of days before, unfortunately, one of our tent mates got altitude sickness and went back. For the next 4-5 days we were just 2 and the difference is immense. With 3 people, there’s hardly any space left for your bags and just enough space for 3 people to lie down. Once you do that, you can’t even move and you just have to spend the entire night in that same position. The tents could probably be a little smaller to if it’s just 2 people (to reduce cost/space/footprint) but 3 in the current tent size is just too much.

  18. 2 people in a tent will undoubtedly be more convenient, but the whole purpose of trekking out in the mountains is to meet new people and explore the beauty of nature without causing any kind of trouble to the environment.
    Saying that if 3 stay in a tent it provides opportunities to get to know new people also it becomes convenient for the people to arrange tents. What I meant is, apart from the trekkers, the people who tend to the trekkers need like food and shelter, they will have less to carry as 3 in a tent will lead to less no. of overall tents. This will also help to reduce the footprint that we leave on the landscape as 2 in a tent will lead to the little larger area needed for all to stay at camp.
    Many showed concerns of bad weather becoming an issue (Which is true. As sometimes it becomes a huge nuisance ) but still, I feel 3 in a tent is good from a broader perspective.

  19. To me, it comes down to a single question. What proportion of your trekkers are traveling as a couple as opposed to as singles/group of friends?

    If it’s relatively large (say >65-70%), it doesn’t make sense to charge them more to have privacy in their tents since most of your customers want it and have been getting it anyway till date. This measure then looks like a revenue boosting exercise.

    If it’s small (say <30-35%), you could get away with charging couples more or denying two-person tents without affecting your core customer base and manage to save a few bucks.

    Speaking for myself, I trek with my wife and if I was asked to pay more for tent privacy or was denied that option altogether, I would wish you well and take my business elsewhere.

  20. 2 is company and 3 is a crowd. All the 3 person tents are made for 3 average frame person, if 2 are big made, third gets squeezed. We should consider we are staying in trekking environment not in concentration camps. With 3 in tent, getting up to relive yourself in the night is a tougher job that attempting a summit. 3 in a tent is a nightmare if your tent mate has a habit tossing and rolling in bed and he uses you like a pillow if head a habit of putting his leg over a pillow in the night..

  21. Having done treks with both two people and three people to a tent, I prefer the two people version unless I’m trekking with family/friends. There are many pluses to this in the comments above that I don’t want to repeat. However, I think that the price should be higher for a two person tent, the extra money going towards offsetting the carbon footprint (like how airlines give us that option).

  22. HI,
    I apologize haven’t read the comments above. I am sure my thoughts would be inline with 21% group :). And I am sure our experience would be similar as well. so, just to add weight to this side of the balance, I add my experience as well.
    Few reasons why 2 per tent is
    1) In one of the treks, I was put in a tent with a newly/recently married couple. It was a winter trek, bitter cold at night. It was quite an embarrassing experience for me. No further comments on this.
    2) After a long and tiring day, if all the three snore, it is ok, but if two snore and one caught in between,one can imagine :). I couldn’t snore, just because I couldn’t get sleep at all. :).

    I could go on…
    but it all reminds me of the famous phrase…. one is good (though more often people say lonely,I disagree), two is company, and three is crowd (definitely in my experience)

    Rgds,

  23. Hellow

    I understand the spirit of trekking and I have trekked with you for about about 6x treks.

    Now I am 47 years old , it was okay when I was in my thirtees to share tent for three

    But now with the increasing age , I would like to have a bit of space luxury and I am ready to pay for it

    Maybe you can start a category of trekking for seniors.

    Also i have trekked abroad , the infrastructure to reach a base camp in our country is mostly pathetic

    Which takes quite a toll for everyone , especially Uttarakhand …..

    So why not offer a bit of luxury in terms of space …

    Rest of the things we do rough out like the ginger lot anyways

    Also when the weather turns rough , like rains and heavy wind and snowfall , water seeps in through ground , plus you want to keep your shoes and backpack dry

    I don’t think , Indiahikes is run like a school and it should not be …..

    So of the costing is not gonna be problem , you should offer this choice to every trekker

  24. I think it was our group only raised this demand of 2 in a tent during Chandrashila Trek last Oct 2016. It was because I was on this trek with my wife and likewise my friend T N Sharma. It was for the reason that being a married couple there was no point in spending night in separate tents that too with strangers. And also there was no point in letting any third person sleep in our tent with us…Because if third person is male than my wife will feel uncomfortable and if female than she can feel uncomfortable with us. For this very reason I insisted on two of us being husband wife in one tent even if it had capacity of three and I we discussed this issue with you also at that time and thankfully you accepted our demand. But later on during trek we found that many of our tents were having leakage problem and almost every night they were covered with additional tarpaulins. Still water kept coming inside and we realised that it would have been very difficult to spend night had we been 3 in a tent. Further we also realised that it was easy to change sides while sleeping (karwat lena) and also comfortable to go out of or get in to the tent if two in a tent are there. Also in heave rain rucksack and other article were kept inside to save from getting wet in night and it would not have been possible had we been 3 in a tent. We were 26 in our group on that trek and were 4 families in all and all were unanimous at the end of the trek that two in a tent was a wise decision. So I suggest that two in a tent specially for married couples is better idea.

  25. I would prefer 2 persons because of the need to keep our bags in the tents. I understand the spirit of trekking /camping etc but then one has to feel comfortable else one wouldn’t enjoy the trek.

    You may charge additional fees if you find that necessary, but give prior intimation about it.

  26. I feel it’s a good move by Indiahikes to consider providing 2 person tents at an additional cost. While I personally prefer 3 person tents (inspite of experiencing the already mentioned problems of snow, rain and uneven surface), there are some valid arguments in favor of 2 person tents. Key would be to price it in a way such that the indifferent audience is strongly nudged towards the 3 person tents.

  27. I prefer 2 in a tent because it gets extremely stuffy most of the times.
    One more thing I would like to highlight is the girl-guy discrimination in allotting tent. I understand this can be a general policy but c’mon everyone should have a good time, right?
    For example, I went on the Roopkund trek with my brother and my friend.We were planning it for so long and had allocated the stuffs in our bag accordingly. But we were not allotted the same tent because of the general policy. I wish it could be taken into account next time I plan a trek with IndiaHikes. 🙂

  28. From my personal experience during Roopkund trek, three in a tent indeed seemed to be a little cramped. We were on a three-sharing basis in Ghairoli Patal, and with the dense forest around, it became quite suffocating at one point. Add to that the personal habits (of reading book before going to “bed”, snoring etc.), it becomes quite painful to be the middle one in a tent. We were lucky to be allotted tents on a twin sharing basis for the rest of the trek, and it was a bliss.

    If you ask me, I’ll always opt for a twin sharing tent, given a choice. 🙂

  29. >> trekking is supposed to be about minimalist living

    Im 40+, trekking for me is about finding peace and losing myself in the nature. Going off to the mountains for me means finding mysel with as little disturbance as possible, it is not simply about a minimalist living. It is about running away from the crowd. And when I end up with a crowd again in the tent where we are waiting turns for simple things like a dress change in biting cold, where you are trying to catch a dream and the other two are playing cards, the entire purpose is lost.

    Trekking means different things for different people. And I think providing the option of 2 per tent, albeit at a higher cost simply allows you to draw a different set of people who are looking for peace and quietness, not just minimalist living.

  30. I’m for 3 in a tent.
    But, the most logical argument that I found for two in a tent in this discussion is the one that states when it is raining it becomes cramped.
    So, my solution to this problem would be to offer a choice of two in a tent on the treks where it rains a lot, and not on other treks.

    Also, this kind of raises an issue.
    Suppose there’s a group of 12 people, and 10 of them opt for 2 in a tent, then what would your policy be for the remaining 2 people? Would they have to pay extra compulsorily or would you accommodate them in actual cost?

    My point is that giving this choice to trekkers will raise a lot of such issues for your organisation.

    Best of luck. You are doing a wonderful job. Hope you continue like this.

  31. I stayed both two & three capacity tent. And found two capacity is more suitable. This is not the matter of comfort, as time us an importent factor during trek so it saves time. So I would prefer two……Thanks

  32. Hi Swathi,
    I agree to all the points mentioned in your article. Being trekker is leaving behind your comforts. And immersing yourself in nature with minimalist lifestyle.
    However I agree to Sangeeta Mahajan. In a tent of 3, it’s not just 3 ppl, it’s luggage, shoes etc all together. Then it becomes really tough.
    During our Himalayan trek, it rained very heavy on all days and nights. With wet luggage and shoes it was tough to manage inside for 3 ppl.
    I feel, if we can have a small attachment or cover which is attached to the tent basically to cover up luggage in case of rains in night, the tent itself can be very comfy for 3 ppl.

  33. It would be better to go for 2 a tent. Many serious trekkers don’t want much disturbance and many a times they don’t choose IH for same reason. You may have smaller groups and opt for 2 a tent.
    Apart from that:
    It really feels cramped up with three 6 feet guys inside the tent.
    When Diamox starts acting up in the middle of the night, the whole tent shakes up to glory.
    Tough to change and pack. Plus cant sit inside the tent and chit chat with 3 in that space. Can’t stretch legs or arms for that matter.
    Plus 2 a tent makes it possible for a couple to adjust in a camp. It offers privacy and camping becomes a much lovely experience.
    A couple friend of mine disliked the 3 a tent system and truthfully she was cribbing into his ears throughout.

  34. 3 to a tent for solo trekkers is fine, but as mentioned in this thread that provisions should be made for couples. The same was offered to a German couple on my har ki dun trek, but due to some reason, it’s not being offered to Indian couples. Trekking for couples is a very personal and a special experience. They should be allowed to spend time together. Unfortunately it has a greater environmental impact, but trekking companies are the reason normal city dwellers are going off to the mountains in the first place.

  35. I will endorse for 3 in a tent because :

    1.On ecological front
    2.As a defence against cold
    3.No guarantee that same 3 men tent will be offered as 2 men tent.

  36. I would prefer 2 in a tent ……. A tent is home for the 5 – 6 days of the trek ….. Most first timers find it difficult to sleep in sleeping bags and tents. Just making it a lil more comfortable will encourage more trekkers !!!

  37. hi Swetha ,
    i am just saying ,if given a choice -scenario 1 : i’ll prefer 2 in a tent bec. of space constraint to keep our bags inside the tents ( when it rains ) ,
    scenario 2 : if the weather is cold and windy ,i’ll prefer 3 in a tent

    best thing to do is let the TL /TG to take a call ,depending on the situation and weather -end of the day we are going on a trek and not on picnic 🙂
    good day ..

  38. 2 in a tent – I would personally prefer 2 in a tent for the reason that
    1) 3 makes it congested and it becomes very difficult to breathe at night.
    2) Rainy season treks make the things worse with no space to keep your things.
    3)When trekking as a couple I would rather prefer to be with my husband rather than sharing the tent with someone else.
    4)Similarly when trekking with kid i would not like to share tent with others as it becomes difficult adjusting for all.

  39. I fully agree with your justification about having three to a tent. I personally felt that it’s totally comfortable for 3 persons to stay in a tent.
    As per my suggestion, some in case of some tents there was a bit problem with the chains. There are two colors of tents Indiahikes mainly uses.

    One is Yellow and another is Orange Hillman Expedition tents. I found that Hillman tents were more comfortable because of the inner structure and air circulation vents.

    In lower altitude sometimes yellow tents were becoming claustrophobic, some of our fellow trekkers also felt that. But in higher altitude, it’s best to have three people per tent.

  40. I think there should be an option for 2 people per tent also. Here are some reasons:

    1. If you are trekking as a couple ,to minimize the load, lot of stuff has to be shared, so every morning you have knock other tent(all girl) for stuffs . Packing in morning becomes way more time taking & complicated.

    2. Yes , completely agreed ,that trekking is not about luxury, but lot of trekkers brings a lot of stuffs, those who gives their rucksuck for offloading. And imagine all those rucksuck, daypack, sleeping bags and other stuff in a tent with three trekkers , it surely not comfortable. I think we should limit the load of overall luggage also, that has to brought for trekking, which results into more mule.

    3. While changing and repacking in morning , other two trekkers have to move out of the tent ,due to lack of enough space. Some person take way more time to repack and change. Overall it’s delays the whole process.

  41. It’s essentially a matter of choice rather than right or wrong.
    Couples should have the option of choosing a double than a three man tent.
    Most people are assuming a twin occupation in a 3 man tent, not realising that per person area will remain similar in a smaller 2 man tent

  42. I would any day prefer 2 in a tent. At the end of the day it is not luxury that we come looking for in the mountains but 2 people in a tent definitely makes sleeping a little bit more comfortable and also it leaves space for other stuff like shoes and all which v have to leave outside the tent due to lack of space.
    Also with 3 people in a tent getting in a sleeping bag is quite a task after a tiring trek so 2 people would make it easier to wriggle in and out of the sleeping bag

  43. I am 6 foot and a hundred fifteen kilos. Sharing a tent with two guys of even “normal / average” size is a tight squeeze.

    I have very little headroom and end up sliding into areas / people especial while tent where on slopes…it is fun most of the sometimes but ends up disturbing others with little room to ‘adjust’

    Plus would want to celebrate my wedding anniversary on a trek…two a tent would make this awesome

  44. For me a trek is a way to get away from the hustling bustling daily lives in crowded cities. It is a way to find something both within & with nature. It to me is a Serene way. With that in mind, I don’t want it to be crowded. I want it to be an experience where I am left to my own thoughts at the end of an hard Day’s walk or with my closest of friends’.
    And for that reason 2 for tent will be something I would definitely favor. Having said that, I sleep an aware not everyone looks at it this way and hence they might prefer 3 for a tent. But for some folks like me, I would stillest like to have an option to choose, even if it comes at a little premium.

  45. Although I am ok with 3 to a tent, I would prefer 2 to a tent for following reasons

    1. I am a big guy as compared to many people, so having a larger tent will make it easier for me

    2. With luggage, packs etc. for a larger person like me its a bit hard to sleep.

    But no complaints if there are 3 to a tent

  46. The rationale behind 3 in a tent is logical. Less footprint, less luggage, goes more with the spirit of camping. Although a significant number of people prefer two in a tent, and their argument make sense.

    A good solution, it seems, is to have an extra charge for ‘2 in a tent’. It will not affect the large population of trekkers who prefer 3, and will also please the trekkers who prefer 2-men-tents.

  47. Had done the Chopta Chandrashila trek with my husband. Though we are not a young newly married couple,we felt the need to restrict our tent to the two of us. If we had to have a third person in the tent it would have been awkward and uncomfortable for us as well as the third person.
    I know that I myself wouldn’t be comfortable sharing the tent with a couple if I were trekking on my own. Also the question of whether the third occupant would be a male or female. Would be kind of weird for the lady if there was a man and vice versa…(.for the couple as well as the third person.)
    Totally get the point of view of minimalism on a trek but then one has to weigh the practicality too.

  48. I will personally prefer 2 per tent – for I always trek with my wife and it is suitable to be together , in terms of the things carried along. It offers more space too.
    But making 2 per tent as a policy decision can have a girl left alone in a tent ( In case of a boy , one of the Trek leads could share with him ) which is absolutely not advisable, very risky & hence out of question , really.
    Hence I feel , 3 per tent as a general rule , but with an option for 2 per tent at some extra cost , specially for couples , is the best middle path .

  49. I personally prefer 2 in a tent. Having experienced both options of twin sharing and triple sharing, here are my thoughts :
    1) Triple sharing works great at campsites where it’s extremely cold and NOT raining. It surely DOES helps to warm up the place.
    2) During rains which I experienced almost everyday during my Roopkund trek, triple sharing was highly uncomfortable. The tents were wet, with water seeping and with all the luggage inside. It was hard to sleep every night. There was just no place to wiggle.
    3) Uneven surfaces of some campsites. With triple sharing again it was highly uncomfortable as two of us kept hitting the last person on slope.
    4) My friend who is 6+ ft and big, had to sleep in dining tent after few nights as he just couldn’t sleep at all and he was fatigued all time due to it.

    Having 3 in a tent may work for few but having 2 in a tent works for all. The trek experience is just not about adventure and minimalist living but also about good experience, enjoying daily hikes and staying in good health.

  50. Two in a tent

    – allows breathing space.
    – allows a bit of distance between co- Trekkers who snore, smell, move a lot during night.
    – gives space to change clothes, keep bags in rains.
    -beneficial for tall people.
    – peaceful and comfortable after a tiring trekking day.

  51. Hello everyone
    Will support the current idea of 3 a tent.
    Following are the reason y it should be manyadory
    1. We are not going on honeymoon that privacy is required.
    2. 3 a tent will raise amount of CO2 in the tent which will help us to counter colder weather.
    3. Space and costing will be reduced as less amount of tents will be carried with each group.
    4. Less maintenance as small number of tent.
    5. Interaction will be more if we share the living space. “Sharing is Caring”.
    5. Hello Indiahikes go with majority and someone really wants privacy charge them accordingly.
    Regards
    Aakash

  52. It is my feeling that IndiaHikes pampers trekkers too much. I would seriously recommend all trekkers to travel light, particularly the women. This will save them a lot of energy as well as space inside the tent. IndiaHikes should also give an option to trekkers to carry their own tents, as long as there are at least two people to each tent. Maybe even consider giving people a discount for carrying their own tents.

  53. Two to a tent please. I feel there is no need to shoot ourselves in the foot by stuffing 3 adult human beings in one tent and increasing complexity in challenging weather/terrain conditions. This should not be done at an additional fee because then it risks social discrimination which is all to easy when “how much you have paid” becomes obvious. Putting 3 to a tent carries several interpersonal risks and challenges in maneuverability of people and their bags/rucksacks, especially in mornings when there is a rush to get ready to go. We need to understand that human beings collaborate best when given adequate interpersonal space. As to increasing carbon footprint/aesthetic sense of 10 tents in a forest clearing… we need to be realistic and understand the risks participants undertake with their lives and those of their loved ones whilst on such expeditions. Whilst the Eco Green bags and 0 tolerance for waste is a laudable initiative of Indiahikes, we need to put these efforts in perspective. We are no flag-bearers of a responsible low carbon footprint life. Reducing carbon footprint is a personal ethical choice that confronts us as individuals and which is reflected in whether and how much we are able to reduce our footprint in the mega cities we live in, where the real damage to the Earth is taking place.

    Thank you.

  54. Well, I agree with all points that justify Three in a tent. But, yes, with three adults and their bags, shoes and other stuff, it does get a bit inconvenient. Especially if you are not travelling in a group with your tent mates.
    I strongly feel two-in a -tent should be offered as an option at an additional fee. For people who are bigger in size and also for couples traveling together, it will make a big difference for sure. It might be a luxury while trekking, but at the end of the day, everyone wants a good nights sleep!

  55. Although I agree trekking in the himalayas is all about minimalism, I’d prefer 2 in a tent simply because three in a tent seems very cramped up in space when you account for all the luggage, shoes, and other miscellaneous of 3 people.
    So I’d vote for 2 in a tent.

  56. I would prefer having 2 people in tent.
    1- it gives enough leg room and less claustrophobic to people.
    2-couples are definitely not okay with somebody sharing space with them.
    3-We understand trek is all about living in these situations but then this is not a rule book we following. If one can have comfort, let them have it.

  57. My two cents to this
    I think the tents you have at present are fine and pretty comfortable since the bags are kept outside. Moreover having more people also helps during extreme cold nights.

  58. Since I am a trekker from my school days, when concept of carrying tent was not there and we used to sleep at any place practically, We used to carry our utensils, ration with us along with other necessities all the period of trek. Thus for me your trek is a big comfort and hence I don’t have any objection for 3 in a tent. But now a days, there are lot of first timers or non trekkers, who are coming for trekking. They definitely feel uncomfortable. You people have started organised treks to ensure new comers get attracted to this activity and making the treks far more comfortable. Then why not start 2 in a tent? I have seen many people who used to feel uncomfortable with 3 in a tent. If you feel sharing should be learnt during treks, my suggestion is to start changing partners in the tent every day. So every one will have to learn to adjust to new person and there will not be any group formation, which according to me is not good.

  59. 2 please! I have been to about 4 treks with IH, and one of the things I dread is the changing of clothing layers, accidentally elbowing each other and the petty disagreements that crop up by virtue of people being physically uncomfortable. If you’re tired after a long day’s hike, you want to, at the very least, rest comfortably and not wake up with the spasm the next day. It’s one of the major reasons why I would prefer hiking independently or with a better arrangement.

  60. 3 in a tent is definitely too tight. If you are tall and with all the backpacks, it can get unmanageable. People who offload almost always have bigger backpacks. And a substantial day pack! If you can stop people from offloading, they’d bring smaller packs and then maybe 3 in the tent would work.

    Somebody in the comments suggested keeping the bags in a separate tent. That might work.

  61. I vote for 2 in a
    if you see mostly women voted for 2, cause i think it is difficult for girls to adjust 3 in a tent. We tend to have more stuff tha guys firstly. Also when you have 2 pax in a tent its easier to divide the area and keep your stuff on the left and right side. If a third person is there he/she will have to keep in the middle top area which is gets cramped up. Also i noticed the folks who share two in a tent get ready quickly than three in a tent. When it rains and the sleeping bags get moisty or we have to run out to the loo in the night it gets difficult when 3 people are cramped up inside.

  62. I would prefer two in a tent… As this is my first trek with indiahikes… And i have taken reviews from my friends and found that everything is perfect except tents with three due to suffocation and unable to move during sleep.

  63. You have correctly articulated all the reasons for 3 per tent! Well done!! These are the real reasons I and prefer 3 per tent: 1) smaller tents or bigger with less people are dangerous in rough weather as I have experienced, 2) human resource issue when you have more tents especially if people have to be evacuated as I have observed, then the helping hands gets reduced, 3) during cold temperatures or rainy days more people in a tent really helps, even some tent manuals recommends these for optimal use. These advanced tents designed for the rough, rains and snow, are sold by the company for 3 people and it is not like India Hikes is squeezing 3 in them! I also appreciate the new synthetic liners which India Hikes is providing, they are cleaner, easy to wash and warmer.

    I have shared my tents with tall people, really bulky people and a good mix of both with people from different backgrounds, and we never had an issue. This is even after placing our 70L trek bags inside the tent. One, it is how you place your bags and items inside the tent (some to the side some to the head side etc.) and two, it is how you pack and what all your bring for a trek (thanks to Our Lady of Videos, Swati! ;)) and not bring unnecessary things. It is also how you adjust with others; give others their space while you take yours, a true sense of camaraderie!

  64. Of course only two. I trek with my partner and I would not be comfortable with a third person inside our tent. Although the option of paying more could be a solution to this. The onus in that case would lie with IH to effectively implement it.

  65. I vote for giving people the option of 2 to a tent. The reasons are the same as those voiced by many others in their comments:
    1. Between the sleeping bags and the backpacks, 3 to a tent is really stuffy. For most of us sleeping in a sleeping bag is anyway an uncomfortable experience. To add to that, the cramped space makes it really hard to stretch or turn and you constantly hit your fellow tent mate.
    2. I completely endorse that this a group activity and a large part of the experience is in getting to know people from different backgrounds. However, all of the interaction can still happen with 2 to a tent. We had many people sit and talk in their tents until they went to sleep. It is only for sleeping that we you move to your own tent. Once you get into your sleeping bags and doze off, there is no further interaction in any case.
    3. I understand you might want to keep the costs manageable to attract a wider audience. So impose a surcharge on those that want the extra space/ comfort. No different from airlines or cinema halls or sports stadiums.

  66. The tents closed down on me in the second campsite, could not breathe and almost had a breathing fit. But that being said, I think it would have happened even if there was just one another person there.
    As with everything, the first day was hard, but we got used to living in that tiny space. My tent mates and I had a great routine where we would help each other zip up the sleeping bag. You learn to work around the space constraint, anyway.

  67. For a couple, if there is no 2 in a tent option, that basically excludes us to trek with you. Its definitely an option you must consider!

  68. On my first trek, I slept for barely 2 hours on the first night, maybe 3-4 hours on the second, and 5-6 on the third. The same sleep pattern was repeated on the second trek.
    While I completely understand the reasons for accommodating 3 in a tent, it is very tight sometimes (and I’m quite slender). Turning sides is a task. And when the ground below isn’t level, you’d have someone sliding towards someone else. I remember having to push away my sleeping tent mate multiple times through the night to get some space. Having said that, the entire experience was awesome and 3 in a tent is something I can live with.
    My husband’s experience was worse though. With 3 guys in a tent, each almost 6 feet tall, 2 of them well built, it was extremely claustrophobic.
    It would be nice to have an option for 2 in a tent for people who really need it. Maybe the trek leaders can use their judgment to assign tents accordingly keeping height and weight in mind?
    As suggested above, keeping backpacks in the dining tent for the night also works well. We did actually do that a couple of nights on one of the treks because there was no space to fit them all within the balcony areas.

  69. I go with the two to a tent option and echo the sentiments of the other trekkers who have voted for the two treks per camp based on the experience of having done few treks with IH…. the cramped space, weather, rain, requirement of proper resting space after a grueling trek etc etc being the main reasons. There is no need to change the tent size. The existing tents will suffice…. As already mentioned elsewhere, IH would only need to add two- three more tents in all camp sites ….. as per my experience the IH camp sites are set up once during the start of the trekking season in most of the popular treks run by IH. So the reasoning that two more tents need to be carried with each batch and thus more carbon footprint is not exactly correct……

  70. Extra money can be charged for 2 people in a tent, some of the benefits for less people in a tent are as follows –

    1. Tent’s supposed to hold luggage, need more space.
    2. Less people will Snore.
    3. Leg’s can be stretched.
    4. It’s easy to get out and enter in tent at night for washroom.
    5. Comfortable for couples.
    6. Reduce suffocation.

    It’s important to have sound sleep at night to start the next day with high level of energy. 2 in a tent is not a luxury (People who prefer luxury don’t prefer trekking), Solving genuine problems will attract more people for trekking.

  71. Like any debate,there cannot be a 100% consensus. As a senior citizen,i would be very happy with 2 per tent. Gives a less claustrophobic feeling and at my age ee feel that such things ate not luxuries.
    A strong votary for 2 per tent

  72. Let me put forth my views pointwise as raised by Swathi:

    1. With all due respect to your experiments with the size of the tent, I still say that the size of the tent is too congested for 3. Consider the day sack and the off-loaded Rucksacks of 3 participants in the tent, although not at the same time. It is not possible to keep everything in the outer. With 3 daysacks and 3 trekkers, it becomes very tedious even to turn while sleeping. It disturbs all the 3 in the tent and this happens so many times during the night as someone or the other will be restless throughout.
    2. About carbon footprint: Consider a batch of 20. You will need 10 instead of 7 tents for participants. All other logistics will remain the same. Kitchen tent, dining tent, Kitchen supplies and utensils, Kerosene, Toilet tents, 2 extra tents as you have mentioned, ALL will remain same. So practically the weight of 3 tents, which will be 25 Kg, will add 1 porter or half a pony. This to the best of my calculations is hardly 5% increase. We are taking so much care to reduce Carbon Foot Print. So this additional 5 % can be considered as essential evil. Please consider that if we don’t go for any trek, there will be 95% less carbon footprint left.
    3. About Aesthetics, we may reduce the batch size if you think 3 more tents don’t look good. But I am sure this is not a considerations as in many treks you have 25 or sometimes more trekkers in a batch. And that time this point about aesthetics does not come in the way.
    4. Please don’t consider all the participants as hard-core trekkers. Tent provides us a roof over our head, ok. But we need some elbow room to stay in the tent. 2 in a tent is NOT at all a Luxury. By putting 2 trekkers instead of 3 does not make it a ROOM. I did not understand what you mean by “Glamping or Glam Camping”, but if it is Glamorous camping, please note it does not become so by just putting 2 in a tent.
    5. I have done camping in sub-zero temperatures. I have done Chaddar trek. I have even camped in Antarctica, just 2 in a much bigger tent. 2 in a tent is warm enough for any cold. This I can vouch from my experience.

  73. I completely agree with the mentioned point as in the easy trek the trek last for few days and the maximum altitude is less so it is preferable to have two in a tent making trek a comfortable and if a couple comes to trek they will feel little bit uncomfortable but at higher altitude we need more number of people included in our tent which leads the tent to warm and lesser the number of tent more the beauty of nature

  74. Nowadays, trekking is no more a typical expedition as was thought 10- 20 years back. That time a group of people arranged their own to undertake a trek by arranging tents, accessories, ration, conveyance, guide, porter etc. That was a challenging task also beside the expedition.
    Now, travelling to a hill station is no more a preferred option for holidaying and leisure. Common people are intending to go to the remote terrain of Himalaya for which trek is the only medium. So, they are preferring to spend holidays in a trek-able terrain (easy to moderate) which offers also a thrill of expedition to some extent. As the leisure component is attached to it, a good number of people prefer comfort, privacy. There may be couple, colleagues, friends, persons with same age group. So, as per my opinion at least for them, special provision of two persons should be there. At least, if the campsite(s) could accommodate a number of two-men tents then there should be the option for two-men tent.

  75. This is a good debate.

    Snoring won’t stop or reduce if there’s a bigger tent provided :), this isn’t the right reason that can be provided I feel.
    We have to get sound sleep after a tiresome trek. And at such altitude, sleep is a very very IMPORTANT aspect for the body to be ready for next day’s trek. Lack of sleep can cause real concern.

    * 3 in currently provided tent is good, IF AND ONLY IF the luggage and accessories isn’t put-up in the same tent.
    * 3 in a tent will be good, if there’s a larger tent provided which can hold luggage and accessories of all 3 and have good space for comfortable sleep. Because getting good sleep is very IMPORTANT for the body to be in good shape for next day.

    * 2 in currently provided tent is good with luggage and accessories in the same tent,

    If currently provided tent is the one which you want to continue with, 2 in a tent is very much my option. Else, please upgrade to a bit bigger tent.

  76. It’s not an issue whether to go two or three in a tent. It will be ok for three people if we are traveling solo or three persons male together but it will become kind of awkward if we are couple. In that case it will be good for two in a tent so at the end its personal issue so having an option to opt before trekking whether to go for two in a tent or three in a tent will solve the problem.

  77. I feel 3 in a tent makes it a bit congested. The rucksacks also take up some as well. In my last trek, 2 of us were tall and there wasn’t enough space. Lets say It would be difficult to get out of the tent at night to watch the stars without disturbing others sleep. It helped that we were friends and colleagues, otherwise sharing with 2 other people who you barely know, would have magnified the space shortage and made it uncomfortable. Agree with points in favour of 3 per tent, but I think if 2 person per tent should be given as an option at an extra cost.

  78. I vote for 3 to a tent.

    Having said that, I think all things are mostly black and white with lot of grey in between. There are valid reasons to have 2 to a tent sometimes and so every trek should have 1-2 two person tent options. This should be offered on extra payment and also a valid reason such as
    1.Claustrophobic,
    2.Very tall
    3.Medical/physical condition

    Why you should not offer a two person tent:
    1. Bad Weather. We always left our bags and shoes outside the sleeping area but inside the covered area. So even when we had rain during the Hampta pass trek it was ok. Or keep them in dining tents And if it still gets wet, so be it. This is a trek in the wild, enjoy the rain !
    2. Couple. This is a trek in the Himalayas. Couples stay together everywhere else but should just rough it up on the trek
    3. Snoring. The second person in the tent can be a loud snorer as well

    On a different note: I feel guilty about taking a trek to the Himalayas just looking at the sheer amount of waste/carbon footprint a campsite creates. Maybe all of us should have a self restriction of two treks to the Himalayas (ever) and IH can consider reducing their overall batch size as well.

  79. Definitely two. Ultimately it boils down to who is taking the decision. If the ‘lean’ founders are taking the decision then they need to put themselves in the shoes of three tall (and often large) people sleeping in a tent on uneven surface, with water leakage all around along with three backpacks. Accept it, most of IH tents leaks during rain and water clogs on the sides.

    I don’t agree to snoring argument raised by few people. People do snore, if not one in your tent then in another tent. And it will be difficult to sleep irrespective of 2 or 3 in a tent.

  80. I think there should be an option of 2 specially for the couples, ofcourse with an extra fee.
    I want me n my wife to go on a trek together. But in case of three people sharing the tent, it’s not possible for us to stay together.
    And who don’t want to be with his or her life partner during such beautiful treks ?

  81. While in my Nag Tibba trek this Feb, we were 2 in a tent. Whereas in my Triund Trek 4 months back, we were 3 in a tent. To tell you the truth, 3 in a tent was more fun. Beside it also depends on a company we have, of course couple won’t prefer it, but friends, the more the merrier. I vote for 3 in a tent.

  82. I’m not so concerned about comfort or I would have loved to get myself a suite with a California king size bed 😁.
    Three in a tent are enough comfortable.
    As long as their is a extra space included for rucksack (in my tent that I carry I got it ). Otherwise keep distance, private property, trespassers will hear me snore all night.

  83. Two in a tent

    For someone who is claustrophobic, the mere thought of being enclosed in a sleeping bag, in a small tent, with no room even to turn, is a nightmare.

    An option should be available to book for twin sharing in advance – or, IndiaHikes should be more open to special requests.

  84. I prefer two in a tent. During our trek to KGL it was raining on a day and we were suppose to keep everything inside our tents.. Bag, shoes…… During such situations two in a tent is much convenient than three.

  85. Encourage 3 per tent as a standard.

    Indiahikes can mention size of tent in the registration form and ask users whether they prefer 2 or 3 per tent. Additional fee should be charged for those who opt for 2 per tent.

    On a brighter side you are creating jobs for the locals 🙂

  86. Strong preference for two. What one needs to understand is the three-people tent is sufficient but we also need to keep the backpacks inside and they do take a lot of space. Now to add to this consider about the guy sleeping in the middle. He is kind of stuck and he even has to think about no touching someone while changing side. Furthermore if one guy wants to change then the other two have to go out in cold.

    So I strongly prefer to book a trek which limits it to two in a tent.

  87. Two in tent is preferred.

    Sound sleep is critical for being fit for day trek.
    3 people means 3 ppl in camp plus 3 rucksack and 3 pair of shoes making it cramped.

  88. I would personally prefer 3 in a single tent. Just because of the following reasons-

    1. It’s warmth when there are three in the tent !
    2. Sometimes, you get the chance to listen unexpected stories while trying to sleep in at sub-
    zero temperatures. You never know what drives other people to trek and after listening to their stories, it also help us in clearing our doubts regarding our personalities and life
    3. It’s always nice to wake up at 3 in the morning , noticing heavy snowfall outside and bargaining the hell out of other two guys asking who would accompany you for the loo 🙂 🙂 🙂

  89. Sorry but I disagree with almost all the points above but I do agree with the 5th point which talks about warmth. It’s absolutely correct that 3 in a tent gives warmth but the tents that you use (as per your first point) are not that spacious to fit in 3 people in it together specially with the bags. We can not keep the bags out as you very well know that Himalayan weather is pretty unpredictable and you would never want your bag or the stuff inside getting wet. My point here us the size of the tent should be a little more. I have seen better tents for 3 men and which are not dome shaped. In cases of rain I have also seen the bags getting drenched in water. Leakage in the tents on my recent trek to buran ghati. We have felt water dropping in our faces during sleep. So i would suggest you should either put 2 men in a tent or get a better quality and spacious tents for 3 men. Also, it becomes very difficult to unpack and pack inside these small tents for 3 men. We have to do it one at a time which further delays all the schedule. This covers the second and third point as well. So if we get a better quality tent it fits just perfect. Regarding 4th point which talks about luxury for 2 people to be in a 3 people tent is absolutely incorrect. We all know when we are on trek we are not on a luxurious holiday. And that’s why we are in tents rather than a 3 star or a 4 star suite. All the trekkers mostly use the tents only at night while sleeping. Rest of the time all are out acclimatizing. We all know what trek means to us then it may be a 2 hr trek or a 20 day trek. When people are getting charged enough they should at least get the basic amenities is what i believe. I have done a few of Himalayan treks over the past few years. Recently I summited stok kangri for which they used nice spacious tents which were of a better quality. I think india hikes can do a little more research and use some good quality treks. Rest of the services like food, sleeping bag etc is still fine and because of which people do like india hikes as a group. It’s upto you how to take it further,its just a suggestion. Thank you 🙂

  90. With all the luggage, having three people to share becomes difficult to sleep, move around, taking out or putting stuff in the bag all such things. And when it rains (which happens on atleast half the nights) it becomes still difficult.
    So as per me 2 per tent is essential and not luxury.

  91. I’d prefer 3 in a tent owing to factors like warmth. Unless there are 2 fat people in tent, I dont see a reason why 3 cant accomodate.

  92. Three in a tent is good when there are mixed variants (in term of height, weight) living together. Where you have very tall or healty people living in a tent, it becomes slightly uncomfortable to spend the night ( specially on moderate and tuff) terrains.

    Since we do input weight height, people can be pe-allocated tents at the start of the trek on such basis (irrespective of any group they come in as this would help peoppe to discover and dissolve with each other. Frankly they just need to sleepn off the tiredness) .

    For moderate and difficult treks we can think of 2 per tent depending on the feasibilities and availability of resource.

  93. I think all the reasons IH has given justifies 3pac/tent and I also feel that’s about the right balance between too much logistics vs crowding. I have one simple explanation for all those here asking for 2 persons/tent because they seem to be making some asumptions-
    1. The current test IH provides is actually meant for 3 so do not assume you will get this with just 2 people. For 2 people/tent we would get a proportionately smaller tent and hence you will be in same spot!
    2. The tents are meant for people and there is actually good space for bags outside the zip zone but if it’s raining then it can become a problem but that is a problem because we have not packed properly for rain and it’s not a fault with the tents. No tent is meant to hold all luggage and people in the same sleeping area.
    3. The 3 person tent being larger is more tougher and resistant to wind/rain which is more important at high altitudes.
    4. People should adopt/adapt on trekking the open nature attitude than quibble about loss of city type conveniences, after all after the 8-9d trek we are back in our comfy home beds for the rest of the year- I don’t understand why we are complaining.

  94. I am glad this topic came up. I would any day go for 2 in a tent., i also dont mind paying extra as it results in extra cost to the organisation also
    Its not about bonding when you all are struggling to manage 3 backpacks, day packs, shoes , sleeping bag and 3 grown up humans in a tent, its crazy! its a struggle rather.
    We 3 hardly sat together in the tent because it was difficult , we rather preferred to stand outside and have a conversation.
    Because of this sleeping bag of 2 folks on the sides got wet multiple times, the water had got on into the inner layer of the tent and when that came in contact with sleeping bag it got wet .
    You are expected to sleep well to recover from tiredness not struggle the night making sure to have enough space for yourself!

  95. I have trekked with Indiahikes and your competitors as well. I have found Indiahikes to be better in all aspects except the tent sharing option that you provide.
    Two persons in a tent is not a luxury but a means to have a decent space to accommodate 2 people and their trekking gear. Sleeping 3 in a tent is too congested and one hardly gets a comfortable sleep.
    Rains just aggravate the condition further. Keeping the bags and gear, kept in the balcony area, dry becomes a task.
    Your competitors offering 2 in a tent option with no extra cost is the only reason I opt to trek with them over you.

  96. I would like to propose an exception though here for couples esp married couples. It just gives them a real option of going on trekking trips much more often.

    Otherwise, I think 3 in a tent is totally optimal. It’s not a good idea to further burden the ecologically sensitive areas.

  97. I liked 3 in a tent. Warmer. More fun. You get to know more people and make trail friends faster. We taught each other games from our countries. And cozy cozy !!!

  98. Two in a tent, perhaps at an extra cost if required: for a good night’s sleep, basic comfort especially during bad weather, and to prevent claustrophobia/suffocation. I also find that bonding with a new tent mate is easier when you’re not stressed about cramped space, or disturbing two people if you need to get up in the middle of the night. Stuffing three into a tent doesn’t automatically do anything for camaraderie. It’s great for a group of friends but quite stressful for someone like me, who treks solo almost all of the time.

  99. Two people per tent I did my first trek with ih to bhrigu lake .3 people per tent is too much we have to keep our stuff plus there is a lot suffocation …You wrote about luxury on trek honestly I was not able to sleep for even one day because I was feeling suffocated. So I don’t know if u call luxury or neccissity

  100. 2 or 3 in a tent is surely a debatable topic however we all agree on a point that life in mountains is all about fun and survival with minimal services. We all certainly look for a minimal convenience of trekkers but not at cost of additional burden on staff and environment. Although some exception can be considered if trekker is healthy or over 6 feet in height.

    I will vote for 3 in a tent option.

  101. 3 in a tent.
    A. It’s warmer.
    B. You learn from the experienced tent mates
    C. More fun
    D. You continue to stay organized and don’t scatter your belongings everywhere. Which means packing the bag and getting ready the next morning is faster.

    If the problems of uneven tent floor and dry space in tent balcony is taken care of, 3 in a tent does not look like a challenge.

    I have had claustrophobic attacks twice. The trick is to understand I am not going to die of suffocation. I cried for a while and then my husband talked me to sleep. Dining tents help in such cases, but huge rooms with closed windows can also bring about a claustrophobic attack. So this scenario should not be considered in the debate.

  102. Three is fine for me even if it leads to a little discomfort. Especially when it means I am doing this to reduce carbon foot prints. And it’s not that you’re going to spend your lifetime there, its just a matter of a few days. Besides we trek for the luxury of the mountains and the nature around us, not for tents and toilets and et al!

  103. If it’s a winter trek and it’s snowing outside ( i mean in the month of dec, jan,feb,mar) it should be 3 in a tent,
    If it’s not a winter trek then it should be 2. As simple as that. But basically at the end of the day it all depends on the group, moreover on the 2/3 ppl who are sharing the tent. 🙂

  104. Having read thru the comments Swathi, it seems to me that among the respondents there is CONSENSUS !!
    Almost no one is for a rigid 2 or 3 to_a_tent rule. Almost all are for being able to CHOOSE.
    So you’ve got what you wished for – a consensus opinion! Now its up to you (or rather Indiahikes) how you decide to implement the feedback.
    I have great faith in IH. I’, sure you’ll implement a good solution!

  105. As far my view ,3 people in tent is fine. But I would suggest to keep one spare tent to keep all the luggage/bags during night so there is more space created for sleeping .

  106. Both the point of views have merit. There are genuine reasons for 3 as well as 2 in a tent. You mentioned 7 tents per batch. Why not have 4 smaller tents that fit 2 and 4 larger that fit 3. Make the availability clear at the time of booking.

  107. Why don’t we use the dining tents like a big dorm tent and spend the night in there, instead of using the designated ones at all?

    Obviously there can be a designated section for ladies, if not a separate dorm tent altogether. Just get rid of all tent lines in the Himalayan clearings – instead use the spacious and strong, camouflaged ones meant for dining to double up as dorm tents.

    This way you will have lot less footprint, plus reduction in maintenance and trek cost. No one shall complain on roominess or claustrophobia either. On other hand, dining tents will surely provide everyone with better warmth in those freezing cold routes.

    Think about it.

  108. I had been to Roopkund in 2015, the tent provided then was sufficient to accommodate 2 plus our Trek bags. If the size is the same I would prefer 2 per tent. If the size is comparatively bigger then yes 3 per tent is good enough. Also it depends on co-ordination between tent-mates as well.

  109. It should be left as an option. Many might want to stay in triplets while many others might prefer a twin setting. You cannot force someone to accept anything.It should be made known during a trek reservation whether a person is comfortable sharing a tent with two others or one other. Charges could be varied likewise if logistics becomes expensive to carry more tents.
    As much as befriending is encouraged in trekking one has to bear in mind that sleep is an intimate thing and many are not comfortable with a sudden change and too many unknown parameters especially at high altitudes. And we dont want hikers at that high altitude with groggy eyes going for a whole day’s trek. That way they would not even appreciate the beauty of being one with nature and just go on for the sake of going on or worst …develop health problems.

    So nothing should be forced on anyone and they should be given an option to choose as they wish.If I am a bachelor I can put up with even 5 in a Hillman tent that accommodates 2-3 persons…(I’ve done that many times and have spent nights chatting and then unknowingly sleeping all together) but in the same way a couple or a person coming from a very wealthy family might even want a tent all to himself or herself(seen that too). So its an individual choice which a hiking company should take into account while registering them for the trek.

    Another thing is the sleeping bags allocated to each should be with that person till the end of the trek. That way they learn hardships of carrying it with them all through and the allocated ones do not mix everyday. I am hoping that they are washed after each trek for the sake of hygiene…I prefer carrying my own bag or in the worst case a sleeping bag liner so that we dont have skin irritations or any other complications.

  110. Three members per tent is really congested and troublesome. In the trek, with our baggage and also with three members per tent, time for morning dress change and other packup activities will take more time.
    In the last trek, a sound comfort sleep cannot be compromized an three members per tent will never give comfort for trekkers to sleep peacefully. More importantly , packing, getting ready is tedious with three members per tent. I would vote for 2 members per tent and if it is three members per tent, then I prefer to backout from such treks

  111. I think 3 in a tent for medium sized people is good. When the temperature is dropping below zero, it becomes more warm. But I also agree with the point that for large people (more than 5’10 ) , it may be a little uncomfortable. since while registering for a trek, physical fitness details are asked by the indiahikes team, they have the data that of how many such people would be there in a batch. And they can arrange accordingly (extra fee for such cases would not be justified). But in case where people with medium size or couples asking for such options, extra fee should not be a problem for them then.

    One of the comments I came across wrote that with bags it becomes difficult to stretch and change. Well I just have a suggestion that bags can be kept at the corners of the tent or at your feet to stop any cold breeze coming inside (plus it would keep your feet warm and helps in better sleep) and for changing purpose, i guess, doing it one by one would make it hassle free, comfortable and private as well.

    One more thing I would like to add here that when we go on such treks, it should be kept in mind that we are going there to explore the nature. The locals living there spend their entire lifetime without the comforts that we get in our cities. So keeping these things aside for a few days, we can experience their lifestyle. And moreover, it is a matter of few days, I think we should be able to adjust that much. The kind of environment such treks provide, I really wont complaint of anything.

  112. I think both the sides have valid points. What i think is we should provide two per tent on treks where the climatic conditions favour the two and vice versa. Like Hampta rains in mid June and july, so we should provide two per tents. And while filling the trek form, we should ask the trekker as what he/she favours more. There Physical Dimensions are also a determining factor.

  113. I am simply reproducing the email I wrote to you
    At the outset let me say that I don’t agree with any of the points you have made in your initial email.
    1. I am not sure how adding one more mule will increase the carbon footprint. It’s not like they run on fuel
    2. Seeing too many tents in the Himalayas?? Seriously? How big a difference does 2 additional tents makes? This was one of the most specious argument.

    3. I don’t think we are asking for any luxury when it comes to having 2 people in the tent. Having 3 is a crowd. There is no space and doing anything like changing clothes or taking out something from a backpack is an effort. It is an inconvenience to all in the tent.

    In conclusion- this is a policy I do not agree with at all. To find a way around I and a friend have invested in our own 3 person tent which we intend to carry on our treks with indiahikes

  114. As per IH point of view, the given reason of staying three in one tent is valid. I really appreciate that the quality of tent and other trekking gear is excellent.

    As a regular IH trekker, my opinion is that staying three in one tent is little difficult for me. Also I find it little suffocating when three people in one tent. For offload and Small backpack, shoes has to be kept inside the tent atleast when it’s raining or snow fall. Unfolding and folding sleeping bag and changing clothes is very difficult because we are not used to do it in such a small space. I understand trekking in mountain is not luxury and I always try to be ecofriendly, but if it is not fairly comfortable then one can not enjoy trekking fully and someone may give up for next Himalayan trek.
    I think, reducing batch size is more manageble and it will also help to keep environment’s scerinity unaffected.

    Now waiting for IH stand.

  115. Some people might find it insane, but why not we have bigger tents and have 4 people in a tent.

    FOUR IN A TENT will
    1. Help people who feel claustrophobic, they will feel better due to bigger tent
    2. number of tents will be less
    3. Warmth is maintained in tent
    4. Even number of people in a tent is easier for people who are traveling as couples and sharing stuff
    5. when on a trek, the more the merrier !

  116. Had been with my 10 years old son to Chandrashila trek in March 2017. Before the trek itself I had requested IH to provide a separate tent for me and my son (2 in a tent) because I’m claustrophobic and I didn’t want other persons to suffer because of my problems. Needless to mention, Claustrophobic attacks are quite disturbing for the person suffering as well as to other persons. I feel like sticking my nose out of the tent which may not be comfortable for others. Hence, for me, lesser the persons in a tent, the better it is.

    Plus, if it’s raining, u just can’t keep your bags outside which makes it like 4 in a tent. Spirit of trekking is one thing but rest in the form of proper sleep is very essential when on a trek.

    My vote goes for 2 in a tent. 🙂

  117. This should be left a little bit flexible to the trekkers and I understand the sustainability of 3 in a tent, but I also think 2 in a tent is more comfortable. A small luxury would be to have your partner and you in the same tent. Separating partners takes away a little of the fun of the trek. Being a mature adult I understand the need to segregate men and women but at least married couples should be allowed to stay together.

  118. TWO.

    THREE people cannot accommodate comfortably in one small tent. Moreover, if your bags are with you in the tent, then forget that you would even get space to turn side at night when you are asleep.

  119. Two in a tent is a better idea. Nights sleep is very important while trekking. Staying three in a tent makes it more congested and sometimes suffocating. Two will be a great option.

  120. 2 to a tent should be an option. There is more to trekking than bonding with fellow humans. Some of us like to simply commune with nature or enjoy the serene silence of wilderness. In fact, I would say trekking is more about being at one with nature and yourself, than socializing; we do that in our daily lives anyway.
    I wouldn’t call 2 to a tent a luxury, that’s a bit of a stretch. It’s just much more convenient and comfortable. There is nothing wrong with that, especially when having that added comfort helps you catch up on some much-needed sleep.

  121. Two in a tent is better , it is more hygiene , end of the day , you need to rest well after the day trek . Irrespective of size of tent i beleive 2 in a tent . it is not a luxury , it is a must , it is not matter of cost too . it is being comfortable end of day . In fact Swati this should not be even discussed
    Appreciate for RPK trek i am coming on 7th Oct has 2 people in a tent
    thanks
    Ram I yer

  122. Yes I agree to most of your points for 3 in a Tent, Trekking is not a Luxury, It is a paaion driven adventure midst Nature where one has to adjust, otherwise luxury Resorts are available all across and everywhere, where one can indulge. Most of the day we are out and Trekking and we need to sleep and rest only for few hours after the hectic day and again we are out in the early morning for the next day Trek, we need a Tent just to act as a barrier and to cover ourselves from rain or dew according to the season. If the third person is a stranger all the more better as we tend to learn a lot from their experiences elsewhere, you expand your circle also. Trekkers are generally Nature Lovers and as rightly said we do not want to leave larger Carbon footprints, and too many Tents is an eyesore.

  123. Trekking is not for those who are in search of luxury. Getting luxury is against the goal of doing the treks.. Trekking teaches us how to live with less things, how to survive without the comfort of our daily life. Next time these people will ask for facilities like beds with mattresses, dining tables, power generators, toilets with commode, bathrooms with bathtub, massage parlors or Spa and maids for cleaning their plates.

  124. I agree with your justifications, but I would prefer TWO people inside a tent. 3 might feels claustrophbic, and so did a few co-trekkers experienced. And two a tent wouldn’t really be a luxury but just a little more comfortable especially when it comes to changing clothes and managing luggage.

  125. Definitely 2 people per tent. From the tiring day of Trek one needs some extra comfort to relax and have a good sleep. Secondly if a couple is trekking then they would definitely prefer 2 people a tent. Because of these reasons and coz you guys don’t let 2 people stay in tent many of us have to carry own tents, just like I did. I think if cost is the major factor why you are against it then marginal increase in adding those extra tents could be added in the fees. (For the mule etc points you raised, which if we calculate and divide by whole batch size is at max gonna add up to Rs 250 to 350 per person)

  126. Can have an option of 2/ tent on a paid basis.
    But, you can restrict the number of 2-man tent options in every batch to avoid having everyone take that option.

  127. Two people in a tent for sure. My reasons are listed below
    1. To arrive at your campsite wet and tired is tough enough and then to share a tent with two other people with 3 back packs that need to be inside the tent among other things gets too cramped.
    2. Body odor can become a huge issue with 3 in such a closed space especially when you haven’t showered for days on end
    3. If One or two of your team mates is a little bigger in size then things get tough on a different level
    4. After walking all day especially in the rain and then being stuck in your tent and not being able to stretch your back is not fun. More so when it is raining and you can’t even go out and sit

  128. Personally I prefer 3 persons in a tent. My expectation while camping is to live a simple life without luxuries. Also one tents to bond more with your own tentmates. However, of course it’s more comfortable and there’s more privacy with 2 in a tent. And I can understand why people might prefer it. My opinion, Indiahikes can offer it as an option at an additional cost, especially in popular treks like kedarkantha, Roopkund, hampta pass, etc which have fixed campsites. In fixed camps, this would only lead to minimum additional carbon emissions.
    However I do hope that 3 person tents remain, especially on difficult treks where mostly seasoned trekkers participate. If things start becoming too much like a picnic, then people like me would feel that the spirit of trekking is compromised. And I would sadly have to consider alternative options.

  129. Totally agree with what Mr.Sayantan de has written…

    Thats what YOUTH HOSTEL does…..big dorm like tents accommodating 14 plus people… still sufficient space to keep the bags/ luggage shoes/ hanging wet clothes inside.
    Use the spacious and strong, camouflaged ones. low maintenance too.

    plus its so much fun to be in a big group…

  130. If the tent height is not enough then I prefer 2 in a tent .
    Recently I did Dayara Bugyal trek.
    The tent provide were too low in height and it was not possible for a single person to change cloths comfortably inside the tent. It was raining almost daily.
    We were 3 in a tent, one of us had problem of snoring. It was so loud that can be heard in the last tent. It was impossible to sleep when his nose is turned towards your ear. Luckily next night he gave me earplugs . But is is not good to sleep in the woods with earplugs because hearing is the only active sense in the night.
    I prefer the big tents used for kitchen. At least you can stand inside. If space is the constraint then why not to carry 3 -4 big tents instead of 10 small tents. I had done some treks with YHAI. They use big tents and 8-10 person in a tent. It is worm, no suffocation, enough space to change cloths and drying small cloths.
    For the small tents there is not enough space for a person of height 5ft 10 Inch. Three person with their sack it a little bit congested .

  131. My preference is for Three in a tent . This is the ideal requirement during the trek with safety being of utmost importance.
    After trekking for almost 30years in the Himalayas it is my conclusion that 3 in a tent is safe and adequately comfortable.
    Luxury during the trek is a desirable attribute but not at the cost of safety.

  132. Well, all the points you have mentioned, I agree. On top of that, I will also add the warmth factor – the more people, more body heat, more warmth.

    I have been in two treks with you guys till now, and in both routes, Roopkund and Hampta pass, my take is, not two, not three, I would have liked it better to have four people in one tent.

    It’s been damn cold at night, and while sleeping, due to lack of physical activity at that time, our body gets colder, and we could really use one more body heat!
    I have heard all of my team mates complaining about the cold at night, shievering and all – why don’t we get one more person then?!

    I am telling you, it will not be congested!

    But I am sure, you will not be able to introduce this for now, people are not ready for it yet (luxury vs spirit of trekking).
    What you can do instead, make it optional. Ask who wants to do that, and let them. May be, others will follow too.

    BTW, all the support stuffs and the trek lead used to sleep 4 in one tent in Hampta. ☺

  133. I have recently done Roopkund Trek. During our stay at Ghairoli Patal there was lot of rain with thunderstorm in the night and water started sipping through Tent and sleeping bag becomes wet. We were three people and so there was no room for movement and I was in the corner of the tent where water logging was more so it was difficult to sleep in such condition and so if you don’t get proper sleep then your next day for the trek won’t be good as you haven’t taken rest properly. I would suggest the camp sites where we have maximum chances of rain, we should keep option for 2 in tent and otherwise 3.

  134. It has got to be 2 in a tent! 2 in a tent don’t pose any issues, but 3 in one definitely does. Be it claustrophobia or something even as simple as getting adequate sleep. And the body needs its recovery time to trek again the next day. How is it even a debate?

    I am personally okay with 3 in a tent, but I could never imagine that people get claustrophobic attacks. When I first read the mail, I thought 3 in a tent is okay. But after reading people’s experiences, I do feel concerned. Even if I have not had an attack or a problem, I now will be apprehensive of 2 in a tent or at least empathetic of others who feel uncomfortable.

  135. Well, I think it’s fine for people to be 3 in a tent for those who are okay with it. But for some others some extra space is a genuine necessity, not a luxury. People having claustrophobic panic attacks, older trekkers not getting a proper night’s rest, insomniacs like me who already have problems falling asleep to start with, it would be great to have the OPTION of two to a tent for an extra fee for them. From the point of view of minimizing resources and carbon footprint, I believe the trekkers of IndiaHikes are quite responsible and wouldn’t avail this option for luxury. I don’t think anyone offloads their backpacks although they are perfectly capable of carrying it on their own. Similarly, I don’t think anyone and everyone would start availing the option of two to a tent although they’re perfectly okay with three to a tent.

  136. I feel it should be 3 in a tent, the whole purpose of trekking gets defeated if we start asking and expect luxury during a trek.

    Also 3 in tent gives you more chance of bonding in a group.

  137. I prefer two in a tent because it gives you more space. It’s essential to get a good night’s sleep before we start trekking the next day. Sometimes, three in a tent makes it crowded and claustrophobic.

  138. i hv experienced with three members in tent.
    the probability of a introvert member is only 30% hence three is always better than two

  139. I cannot speak for others – read lot of comments with varied opinions. Some think older people and couples should have an option for 2 in a tent..some think it should always be three, some think it should always be 2 : etc etc. Here is my thought :
    1. Trekking is an adventure sport, its about the spirit of taking things on which you normally wouldn’t, its about putting yourself through a challenge to see if you can get through. And this spirit is not only applicable while climbing a pass, its applicable to every single thing you do on the trek. I am a person who is 181 cm tall and weighs 94 kg who is used to the comfort of sleeping on a queen-size bed with AC and quilts and 3-4 pillows and bolsters and still I think this debate itself undermines that spirit.
    2. Trekking has been there forever – yet how many of us had the time or planning or sheer passion to plan and go for a trek by ourselves – carry our own tents, run to govt offices for permits etc? We are all being able to do something which people only dreamed of doing but had no option until few years back. Indiahikes has done a favor on Indians by starting this service. The quality of service they provide – the friendly and talented guides, the horsemen relieving people off their backpacks, the cooks providing such unbelievable food (I mean I had freaking jalebis, matar paneer and what not) ON A TREK and so much more. By the time we reach the campsite, tents are pitched, the tea is hot and ready with snacks. And all this special treatment for what price? I paid 12.5K(approx) for a 8 day trek to Kashmir, do you really think they should do more?

    I think I have said enough – we should be thankful and humble for what we are getting and think before we demand things. Cheers.

  140. I believe trekking is something which brings you out of your comfort zone like sleeping habits, restrooms etc. I have voted for 3 in a tent. For people who are claustrophobic, I am sure you are strong enough to face it and try to overcome it. Happy trekking:)

  141. I’ve read almost all the thoughts, and I must say they all have good reasoning.
    Though I have voted for 2 per tent considering space issues for taller and well built people along with bags and gear, I would never mind 3 per tent when there are like minded individuals who get along so well in any of my trek experiences.
    Accommodating anyone has never been an issue….

  142. Hi Swathi,

    Thanks a lot for writing.

    Its been really a topic as to accommodate 2 or 3 in a tent.

    I personally would go for 3 pax in a tent and there are valid reasons supporting it.

    * First of all ,while on a trek, safety of nature & environment should be our primary concern, so its useless to add more tents , mule or a porter to carry extra tents for the expedition and risking the environment and nature.
    We should be willing to keep it safe and beautiful for the coming generations.

    * Secondly, trekking is about letting go of your comfort zone and willing to accept challenges and situations and adapt to it, after all, adaptation is the necessity to survival.
    If one is in so requirement of comfort, flats & apartments are obviously more comfortable.

    * 3 in a tent helps socialize more effectively as compared to 2.

    * Its easier to maintain the warmth inside the tent in cold weather.

    * Its justified fact that 6.8 ft is more than enough space for 3 pax to sleep comfortably.

    * Its all about acceptance. While on a trek its the team that climbs the mountains & not individuals. So one should be willing to accept everything and everyone and its the bond that develops and the memories that we cherish afterwards.

    The more the spirit of trekking is alive,
    The more joy and peace it has to offer.

    Thanks a lot,

    Pranjal

  143. Dear fellow trekkers,

    After reading the above mentioned debate and all the responses it feels like this more of a personal choice. Sometimes we travel in a group, couple and in this case it more so depends on the level of comfort with each other. Sometimes as a solo trekker but not easily adjustable or more like a introvert might find it difficult to 3 people a tent.
    Looking at the technical side to this; when a trekking group is full for a particular trek there is a What’s app group which is formed where we can know each other a little bit given that we will be spending couple of days in the mountains together. There should be a comfort level while sharing.
    So it would be quite agreeable that if Indiahikes is aware that if in a particular camp group majority people are friends then they can agree to 3 pax a tent, same goes with couple (ideally 2 a tent)
    You see at the end of the day I will be grumpy if I am sharing a tent with someone whose hygienic level are worst then an a pig.
    Everyone will want their trek to be happy and filled with bitter sweet memories.

  144. I know fat and overweight people are not allowed but if they are healthy, sky is the limit…. but what about tents 🤔
    Generally male trekkers are with good built, so 3 is too difficult to accommodate. I saw 4 girls staying in 1tent bcz of which I got comfort of staying with 1 Doctor….
    Don’t give option as that will create confusion but increase the price, you are anyways charging so less for the treks👍

    Thanks
    Anjali

  145. You guys can introduce the option for two in a tent but it should come at a heavy surcharge ( as a luxury) so that people who needs it will only take it because taking extra tent involves lot of resources.

  146. I feel two in a tent is better since there may be people with varying height and weight. Weather is also an important factor and if it is raining (as it mostly happens in heights), the bags and other material is to be accomodated inside. Also most of the time the tent is pitched with some slopes on sides (due to campsite terrain) and the adjustment with three people becomes tricky since there is no buffer space. I did enjoy my recent trip with three of us in the tent but considering all above factors, two in a tent is recommended.

  147. I believe two people in a tent is more comfortable for trekkers.
    Dont treat comfortable word to luxury 🙂 .
    I believe after the trek from one camp to another camp after spending a lot of time exploring nature, playing games. we all go to our sleeping tent to sleep comfortably so that all can be rejuvenated next morning. So having a comfortable sleep is must and placing two trekkers in tents do the needful.
    Coming to the point that trekkers feel less cold when there are three guys in a tent, I think(after doing two treks) that just like sleeping tents are good, sleeping bags are too good to keep us warm. So I dont think that keeping two trekkers will succumb trekkers to cold.
    At last about bonding , We all make good bonding while trekking from one campsite to another campsite and than while paying fun games in dining tents and while doing dinner. I felt that sleeping tents add a little to bonding, they are meant to go and sleep.

    Apart from these , there are other factors which also sometime play an important role.
    – Three trekking bags inside tent is again a task to handle. In rains , It is hard to find a place to keep the bags away to get drench in rain.
    – To attend call on nature at night time, It is sometime hard to come out as easily if there are two trekkers.
    – If there are two trekkers, doing packing and getting ready is easier, therefore dont let others wait.

    So, I feel that keeping two in a tent wont hinder or cause any irregularities but will make the trekking experience more better.

    Thanks

  148. After a long enjoyable day hiking the most important part of the evening is a good nights rest. Being that I am over 6ft getting a good sleep requires having enough space to spread out. This is impossible to do with three in a tent without affecting everyone else’s comfort. I feel if you are prepared to pay a little extra for a two-man sleeping situation than this should be provided to the customer…afterall other trekking companies we have been with outside India provide that option.

  149. Dear IH team,
    Glad to note you people take feedback seriously. This was one of the issues however as I have done 3 different treks with you would like to share my views. For a trek which is long definitely 2 in a tent specially when the climate is tooo cold like Roopkund as after long day you are really tired and want your backpack to stay moisture free. For Chandrashila it was good to have 3 in tent but with people of height more than 5’6” it becomes really uncomrtable as one has be like a rod with no movement space. Sandakphu was luxury as you have guest houses. But even if one had three in tent it was ok as it was for a day or two only out of 6 days trek. So few points for 2 or 3 in tent

    3 if comfortable trek like Chandrashila
    2 if long treks like Roopkund or where one has to walk a lot.

    I totally agree on the points made on the aesthetics, why 3 in tent, comfort. However all treks may not be the same tough adventure.

  150. Am sure we can save carbon footprints in a million other ways than stay three to a tent! Yes it may require an additional mule but look at it as providing work to man who provides this as work and customers are hard to come by in the Himalayas! Cutting costs on a trek is a completely foolhardy approach.

  151. I am advocating for the 2 tent option. I have reviewed almost everyone’s comments and so many good points were made. I believe people sign up for a Trek such as Sandakphu because it is more of a leisurely and comfortable option in comparison with other treks or camping experiences. I would love to have the chance to hike more and get to a point where I feel equipped and experienced enough to do more intense and rigged, but my work schedule does not permit this. Thus, I have 1 week of holiday with my partner and we would like to be able to feel at ease and comfortable during our trek. For us, this means a tent for just the two of us on this hike. My partner is also 6 feet tall, it is going to be very difficult to feel comfortable squeezed in a tent with someone that we don’t know. I agree that bags are a big issue as well.

  152. Even I believe 2 people per tent is the best option. It can’t necessarily be considered as a luxury. Even if one does, I think its fair to offer a little extra comfort in this way given how tiring it can get after a long day of trek in high altitudes. A little extra breathing a moving space would be extremely helpful. I am a 6 feet tall guy and I can definitely say that it was extremely uncomfortable and claustrophobic for me with 2 more people cramped in there. My experience with just one more tent mate was way more comfortable.

    As far as the additional mule is concerned, I am sure you can give an option and charge extra from people who want 2 in a tent. Or to maintain uniformity just increase the trek fee a little overall and the transition can be made smoothly. You already charge bare minimum for the treks and offer services of the highest order. People will happily pay more!

    I have a winter trek coming up with Indiahikes in December. As excited as I am for it, 3 in a tent rule is the only thing I am not looking forward to. Hope you can implement it soon 🙂

  153. Definitely two per tent . During the trek to Kashmir Great Lakes , we were by default two in a tent and it was pretty comfortable . The third would have made it suffocating especially since we had to keep our backpacks inside.

    At the end of the day a good nights sleep is essentials and with tho in a tent it it more comfortable and make the stay more enjoyable.

    I fact I have not opted for subsequent treks as I did not want to get stuck in a three member tent during my treks.

  154. well i am new but just reading the reviews i would prefer two in a room because of the following reasons
    1. firstly as read above i two think that it will be difficult to pack up things and move about with the sleeping bags.
    2. secondly, i believe that it also depends on the height and weight of the person, it will be easier for ladies but i think a bit difficult for men to be three under one tent.
    3. lastly the sleeping bags as discussed above also occupies a lot of space although i have never been on a trek before but it could be a problem.

  155. While the arguments for 3 people do make sense, I feel 2 to a tent especially in Easy to moderate treks should be the norm.

    Regarding the pricing, 2 should be a default. A special discount should be given to people willing to stay 3 in a tent. (Instead of charging the other way round).

    3 to a tent is definitely claustrophobic, especially for us city people. I’ve myself woken up feeling suffocated a couple times.
    Another point- I once went on a trek with a couple of girls who were school friends meeting after a long time. Naturally I felt left out and lonely. When I went with my friend, we were quite comfortable having that personal space to ourselves.
    Given that many people come in pairs (not couples necessarily), it is better that there’s 2 people to a tent, unless the trekker himself wants otherwise.

  156. I prefer Two in a tent. All trekking activities are going to increase footprints in the nature whether two a tent or three a tent. Are three additional tents going to increase ‘one’ mull entirely?? It is very difficult to sleep comfortably, Even packing and packing becomes very difficult.

  157. I would certainly prefer 2 people per tent if an OPTION is given for additional cost while booking your trek for following reasons:

    1: if you are trekking as a couple, you can share a lot of things and it will save time to pack and unpack if you are in same tent.

    2: Uneven surfaces can be problem for 3 in a tent as the middle person gets squeezed and there is no room to move left or right to adjust.

    3: sleeping bags, trekking bag pack and offload luggage , for 3 it adds up to a lot of stuff in the tent.

  158. Amidst the debate, I feel using a 2 person or a 3 person tent can be based on
    1. The nature of the trek (difficult/medium/easy)
    2. No. of days of the trek
    3. option to pay-up for a 2 people tent

    On a larger note I don’t feel if we carry 5-6 extra tents it will impact on the carbon footprint, coz ultimately the mules will eat grass eitherways! 😀

    What I do feel is that on treks like Roopkund, KGL, Hampta pass etc. where the traffic is high and camping space is less only 3 people tent should be used. Apart from this, maybe IH can custom make the tents a tad bigger to attend to the concerns of those who are tall or heavy. Also we can have a common tent where we can keep all the luggage inside together. This will address the space constraint.

    Personally I’m an advocate of a 3 person tent. But yes I’ve faced situations in which we were all wet and it was clumsy to change wet clothes, take out the dry one, and also to dry clothes. You end up making it muddy inside. Apart, after a hard day of trekking when your legs are aching and your socks and feet are smelling you do feel the presence of that extra person.

    I would say for treks of small duration (2-3 days) it should never be a 2 person tent. And for otherwise we can decide situation and trek per se

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